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GENERAL

The Claim

John Lyden states that prayers to a separate, intervening God fail because that God is an idol and a projection of one's own class security, not the actual divine.

The Short Version

No available evidence supports the attribution of this specific theological assertion to John Lyden. While Lyden's scholarship discusses myth, ideology, and hegemony in relation to film and religion, none of the academic sources contain a statement that prayers to a separate, intervening God "fail" because that God is an idol projecting "class security." The claim appears to be constructed by inference from Lyden's broader framework and may involve confusion with punk musician John Lydon.

Caveats

  • No direct quotation or citation from any Lyden publication supports this specific claim about prayer, idolatry, and class security.
  • The 'proto-Marxist view' referenced in the evidence describes Columbus's interpretation of indigenous practices, not Lyden's own theological position.
  • There is a significant risk of name confusion between scholar John C. Lyden and musician John Lydon (Johnny Rotten), who is the one quoted about religion providing a 'false sense of security.'

The Receipts

  1. Film as Religion - Myths, Morals, and Rituals John C. Lyden - dokumen.pub

    dokumen.pub

  2. To Commend or To Critique? The Question of Religion and Film Studies

    DigitalCommons@UNO

  3. Religion, Theology and Film in a Postmodern Age: A Response to John Lyden - DigitalCommons@UNO

    DigitalCommons@UNO

  4. Facing Forward, Looking Back: Religion and Film Studies in the Last ...

    University of Nebraska Omaha DigitalCommons

  5. "An Hungry Man Dreameth": Transcendental Film Theory and Religious Experience

    BYU ScholarsArchive

  6. Women in Film who Reject and Subvert Religion

    Augustana College Digital Commons

  7. Routledge Religion Companions - Book Series

    routledge.com

  8. Myhre, “What is Religion," From Introduction to Religious Studies [PDF]

    San Jose State University

  9. Film as Religion: Myths, Morals, and Rituals by John C. Lyden | Goodreads

    Goodreads

  10. 5 Rockers Who Trashed Organized Religion In Their Music — And Paid The Price - Grunge

    Grunge

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